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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:28 am 
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Felucca Champ Spawns --- 101


Tips for just about anyone doing a Felucca champ:
( mainly for someone that does not know or is newer to felucca)




Just to give you a idea how my luck went trying to get a scheme,
I would say i solo'd around 50 - 75 champs and never got one!
was averaging 4 or 5 champs a day there for a bit!

So just from how much luck and work i think it takes, if i really wanted
one, i might pay anywhere from about 10 mill to 20 mill for a scheme!
*Im NOT looking to buy any schemes, just posting my 2 cents.*

Just how i feel, if someone gets a scheme they just won BIG!
And from what i hear, sounds like poeple are starting to raid champs more.
I will not be around to help anyone fight murders much anymore.
So please people, try to be prepaired a bit more before going to a champ!
I have come up with a few tips that have helped me
SOLO champs and kill murders here on Alexandria! Tell me what you think?




10 ideas to help poeple SOLO/finish champ spawns with little to lose:





1. always check every item you have insured before the champ.
Make sure each one is insured and repaired.

2. Make sure you have gold in the bank to cover you dieing about 20 times
just to be safe.

3. Always check out the champ spawn area *around*. look for places that
will help you in anyway. Like a ledge, so if a murdering DeXxeR shows
up you can teleport up there and he cant get you.
Also look for the fastest ways in or out of that spawn area.
use everything and anything you can to stay alive! Its all fair in PvP.
(to me The meaning of PvP = Stay ALIVE ANYWAY you can!)
Most murders do not play fair, So you should not try to be fair.
Just remeber its YOUR champ the murders are trying to steal.
If they are not there to steal the champ, they are just there to make
your life hell and kill you a few times.
You already know the murders will stop at no cost to kill you!

4. If you get Raided at a champ, always watch everything the murders do.
After the same murders have raided you a few times, you should know
what they are going to do before they do it, who they have to help them, and what
thier chr's skills are. If your tricky/sneaky you can fig out what hours
That murder is online or offline, and do champs when he/them are not around!

5. Set up a pvp chr, get him stocked up and ready to fight, log him out.
Also is smart to stock up a thief and log him out, have him ready to
go steal from murders. Its not been Proven/tested, but i would not
put it past snicker and warlocke to make it where a thief had a RARE
chance to steal a scheme from a champ that is ALIVE! I never asked,
But i have stolen parts that are needed to fill scheme's from monsters.

4. Use both your accounts to fight the champ.
Make/download you a nice heal/attack script, or a med/cast/hide
script. If you are casting ev's to kill spawn Stay on foot. you can cast
a extra ev that way. If you have a vet reward ethy in
your bag and a Bag of sending, they might help you alot!
Find a nice spot and Run that script on your other account at the
champ spawn. Also helps to have knight of justice on this chr.
This way you get a few more PS's. He should also be able to rez other
account just in case of a mistake or bad lag.

5. Then log on you 2nd account, with your main champ spawn killer.
Run around on that chr to fight the champ. You could even run a
script on this chr too.

6. Remeber if you go grey or red ANYONEs EV's will attack you UNLESS
you are in thier party! Always party both of your chrs to stop this.

7. Also i have found if you use ev's at higher lvl's of champ spawns, they tend to die fast.
It takes less mana to heal a EV then it does to cast another!
I Always heal my EV's as much as i can. (this will make you grey)

8. If a murdering Raider shows up or kills you, stop any scripts running.
get to a logout spot and come back on the pvp chr. Dont let them take
your champ spawn! If you die, go rez SOMEWHERE else, restock fast
and come back! Remeber POTS will save your life in pvp, or give you
enough time to get away/untraped.

9. If the champ spawns, it is VERY smart to take him AWAY from the spawn area.
This way if a murder shows up to raid, he has to look for you and
might not find you!

10. If all else has failed, you have died many times, and the murders are
killing your champ, I log on the Nice little stealth thief to look for a
scheme in the corpse of the champ. If i see one i would loot it and run
away! *thats just what i would do, and i feel that is what the murders will do*
Even if no scheme spawns, feel free to try and steal a few of your PS's
back from the murders if you get a chance before they getaway/loot all the gold!
Just remeber no matter what happens, you can always try to do better next time!



I Hope this champ spawn Info will help someone. If not i tryed, then come
up with your own style of doing champ spawns. Please NEVER turn down
helping a friend do a champ just because your scared a murder will kill
you! if you do, how will you research/study what reds do to raid champs?
How will you ever learn "how" to deal with the murders?
Even if one does kill ya, look back at everything you could of done to
help you stay alive/getaway or even kill the Red. Also take a good look at
anything the murder did wrong or right in the fight, and use it to your
advantage next time. This is what made me better at PvP. Every time i
would die, i would find at least 3 or 4 things i could of done better/faster.
FizzureMan (a old murder) always had a way of owning me back in the
day at champs. i never gave up. i always tryed harder the next time.
And i feel it payed off, i know how to defend my self. And im not scared
to go anywhere in felucca. Live or die always remeber ...

"you can always get a rez from a friendly healer, and life will go on"


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:12 am 
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Aye, never be to afraid of reds to go to fel. It really constricts your fun in this game.

Here are some spawn tips geared for newer players when it comes to spawns.

1) Champ spawns have multiple levels, with each level getting harder then the last.
2) Those levels are KILL BASED. The faster you kill the spawn, the faster the overall spawn goes.
3) Keep moving! The longer it takes you to do the spawn, the higher the chances of a raid party forming.
4) If you got to wait for creatures to respawn... see #3.
5) Learn the spawn area. There are many spots, especially in t2a where critters kind of pool into areas.
6) To restate something yamaha said, always be sure to check your bank balance before doing a spawn. You should always expect to die a few times! I like to keep atleast 100-200k in my champers bank account just for that purpose.
7) You do not need god like equipment to do champs! My champer is a necro mage, and I still run around in lich form with 20-30 avg resists. Hell, on my second day on this shard I was doing champs. Tracer was kind enough to give me a starter-lrc suit and got me started with em. I made around 600k in my first few days from it.
8) Have fun what ever you do! If reds show up, i've been known to polymorph into a chicken and run thru em. (out matched and out gunned half the times) lol

Tips geared more towards necro/mage templates:
1) Use all of the skills available to you.
Good, but seldom used spells:

Poison strike - this is an area effect spell with a much shorter cast time then meteror swarm.
Wither - perfect for killing 15-20 slimes-rats at once or getting all the spawn on an ev or two and spamming wither.
Pain spike - great for taking out that pesky skelenton that wont stop humping your leg.
Animate dead - I use these like little guardians and what's better then having 3 lich lords for friends? lol
Magic arrow / pain spike - why waste 20 mana casting an energy bolt to take something out when a MA or PS will suffice?

Some champ spawn commandments:
1) Thou shalt not camp a single spot, unless you're doing a spawn with your whole guild.
2) If you're about to die, thou shalt not lure spawn to the healers.
3) Thou shouldst(lol) heal and cure thy fellow warriors.
4) Thou shalt not horde the gold.
5) If you rezz someone, you shall invis them after death.
6) Thou shall not be in lich form in the midst of 20 other liches.

Well, thats all I can think of atm.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:30 am 
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Felucca Champ Spawns --- 101


...Most murders do not play fair, So you should not try to be fair.....


I resent this - you're encouraging the "I got ganked by a reds" threads by using this advice. All the blues gang up and kill one red then this is fair it seems, but when the reds come back at a time when theres one - then its a case "Damn those ganking reds always not playing fair".....you can't have your cake and eat it.....

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I feel you understand me wrong Yamaha - my point was read the posts on the lobby about "Evil reds etc" killing me, ganking me etc - looted my kit and I am gonna leave the shard *cry cry* - you seem em right? Ok my point is, I play blue, I play red - I play honorably. Been both sides of the argument and what I can say is - if you get raided by 1 red, go to luna and ask for help and 10 people join ya and you all kill the red, don't you think that red is gonna get his revenge? Just the same way as it was shown to him, he will come back 10 times stronger. Blue, red or grey - it makes no difference, when revenge is on someones mind, only death will follow.

It just seemed from your original post - you were advising people to play unfairly against the reds. Well of course assuming the red is playing unfairly (Coming to champ with 2 or more chars doing the champ to fight these on his own - this is what happens mostly with me!) doesn't seem that unfair right? Ask anyone who I have raided - or any of BOS as a matter of fact and ask this, did we leave you to finish the champ, and did we advise you in pvp tactics for the next time this situation should happen? Most cases the answer would be yes we did - we always take time to speak with people after the "battle" has taken place - afterall we are all part of the community here on Lexia, and really we are only interested in fighting, not taking your scrolls or cash.

Anyhow - to end my message I will say this to you - both sides play dirty (This is confirmed) both sides will gank (This is confirmed) and both sides will trash talk (This is confirmed) - in my view its not about any of this, its about how you conduct yourself - afterall red, blue or grey, we all play the same game and we are all people.........

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Redefine, Your Right. And i would say, your smarter then me!
And your a great person. Your just trying to play this game we all love!

PvP is kinda like golf, some need a handicap/headstart/gankers
just to make a fair fight. Just to get them on the battle ground.

When the Best PvPers around get ganked, they know they can kill
3 to 20 all by thier self. (ask infernox and fizzureman) So they have no
problem with it, and should not complian. We all have are place in
this game! some just dont like being at the bottom of the food chain.

I love 30v30 or 50v50 battles Most!
I dont care how good at PvP you are, in a fight like that odds are pretty
even the best will die a few times just like the rest. You have to think
diffrent, Fight diffrent and run diffrent in fights like that!
No other why to gain that pvp skill, but to jump in there and learn over
time! People like a challange, if your a crafter. YOu want them hard to
get rewards, because its hard! If your a pvper you want them good fights
that the chr's are even skill wise, and 45 min later you finaly end up
understanding a weakness and get them to hit a wrong key and the wrong time to win you the fight! ect....



Redefine, thanks for your input! dont think i dont feel
what you are saying! Your got your point across!

*dang it i posted about pvp again*

I better close this website.. LOL


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:47 am 
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I hope everyone knows, i have no problems with anyone. Your all great!
When i started this shard i asked my self "How can i help this shard?"
SO i was thinking there are murders here raiding Almost every champ
never dieing taking all my Ps's. I also seen trammys hanging out in luna wanting to buy
something rare and pretty. Trammys like to buy stuff, murders like to
fight.

I was like humm.




then it hit me, this shard needs poeple to fight the murders.
I felt up for the task, so i started a guild called FEL to help anyone that was killed by a murder get revenge.

Then i was like "how can i give the banksitters what they want?"
I was like Bingo..... a auction house. So i started RG guild!

I feel both worked out, i got new poeple in felucca, i gave the murders
some fights,RG auction went smooth. banksitters could bid on new items
to take home right then. I never wanted anything in return and still dont.
But all i was trying to do was make the shard more fun for everyone!


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Well I never made it to the auctions due to time differences, but I always enjoyed the battles we had between BoS and FEL, specially the 2v2 ones at the champ spawns.

Cheers mate, we always had a laugh!

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Yamaha - nice one man, I always did enjoy our fights either be it, Den Bosh, Malaki of Sin or Goodfella - fun was always had by all and I am sure sooner or later we shall meet again.....until that day.....

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Last time i tryed a champ with my player-char, i burned around 400k and i realiced: I am a looser! :)

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yes people could use a strategy as i don't think we have failed a single champ raid as of yet lol :(

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player111 wrote:
When the Best PvPers around get ganked, they know they can kill 3 to 20 all by thier self. (ask infernox and fizzureman) So they have no problem with it, and should not complian.


Heh, well, experience does help.... (these were the only old pics I could dig up from OSI)

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And, this is from a 7 vs 1 fight of BOD vs me on alexandria. I managed to kill two of them, but they got smart and started working as a team...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:02 pm 
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heh, ya those pics were back when doom arties were cursed.

frankly it made pvp a lot more interesting as most people didnt deck themselves out in a buncha arties.

makes me almost regret my feverish support of the uncursing. :oops:

nice of u to post only the pics where i was talking :wink:


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